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Lots of balancing, lots of tweaks + small additions.
Lots of balancing, lots of tweaks + small additions.


Vael Victus
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Apr 02nd - 10:27
Additions/Changes
Raiding:
showed golemblock, also made golemblock = def * 5 instead of just = def. (golems were simply way too weak)
Golem HP is now doubled.

Stat Balancing
Our stats have been a little wonky, especially as the game goes on. It was always my intention to have mobs' HP higher than the monster's, but twice the amount is a bit drastic. Balances taken:

HP: relies way more on constitution and slightly more on stamina.
Attack: relies a lot more on strength, very little less on luck. (overall buff)
Defense: now relies less on constitution, slightly more on stamina. (defense in general is now down)
Speed: now relies less on agility and slightly more on stamina. (should be slightly less speed now)
Dodge: relies less on luck. (overall nerf)

-- More on stat balancing in a seperate message.

Added tiles to Insula's areas. Nighteye cave now has a custom marker, as does the fruit field.

Added a roleplaying quest in Krial. (and man those things take a while to make!)

I really rethought the attack abilities a bit. Attack abilities now cost less, and in most cases have been buffed up. Also, the good type of monster has a stronger heal. (runs on percent of HP vs. a pathetic base heal of 30) Worker and Good fury have been made more... furious.

"trainer exp to next level" now shows on your home page.

Put a train going from Quilier to Insula and vice versa.

Buttes Guy drew us a picture for the old man at New Orsa tavern. [link] He also made a hospital icon.

I plan to make the "world stats" page actually show relevant and interesting info soon. I updated the page with some already.

Made the layout a bit more IE8-friendly, and made it possible to see profiles even if you're not logged into MonBre. ALSO made the offline pages look more professional.

"Guild offices" now looks a lot more professional, shows more, etc.
You no longer get injured if you do a really good job at work.

Bugs
Actually fixed avatar display in raids.
Cute monsters' bubble blow was giving the wrong description.
Fixed the first monster on grab.php not showing up if you already explored with it.
Game over: mobs still carried status effects, sometimes gameover wouldn't show the proper text. Also made it prettier.

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Edited once on April 02nd, 2009 22:37:00 by Vael Victus
                                                                                                                                                                                       
Vael Victus
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04/02/2009 22:28
Working on next:
Okay, and I mean it this time! I'm going to spend the next week mostly working on populating the world. People are going through the game very quickly and I need to keep up with them. I have a few things to code, but ultimately every day I am going to:

* add tiles to an area
* do the help scroll (things you need to do) for the area
* do a quest

That means a week from now, there will be 7 new quests and the world should be caught up. Unfortunately I can't do minimaps because Flash expired, and I can't find a crack for it don't have the money to purchase a working version.

Stat stuff
My monster who has:

Stamina: 110
Strength: 119
Constitution: 103
Agility: 107
Luck: 109

Went from combat stats of:
HP: 305.9
Attack: 161.6
Accuracy: 112.95
Defense: 115.4
Speed: 123.95
Dodge: 108
C-power
78

Combat Stats
HP: 450.8
Attack: 174
Accuracy: 112.95
Defense: 110.6
Speed: 124.1
Dodge: 102.55
C-power
78

My goal was to make it so monsters survive longer, make battles slightly quicker, make constitution more important, and slightly nerf dodge. Above all I wanted to make sure cpower wasn't touched, because it should remain accurate. I admit I had to tweak them a small amount for the new stats, but it's nothing major. MonBre is a system that favors more HP in terms of fights because of things like blocking. You will notice the gods actually have a lot less defense than should because it makes for better battling. Dodging got a small nerf because quite frankly, it needed it.

I should note: the changes in this update mostly came from suggestions + the fact I actually sat down and played my own game for once.

Edit: o rite also the HP will be good for when we start to get things like the hospital + camping sets

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Edited twice, with the latest on April 02nd, 2009 22:35:32 by Vael Victus
                                                                                                                                                                                       
Demi Lune
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04/03/2009 09:11
Are you adding quests to the earlier towns, or the ones farther on? Since I can't stand to leave a quest unfinished, lol.

It doesn't seem like much given the change in your monster's stats, except for HP, but the changes sound good. Enemy defense was extremely high around Pariltas or whatever the stone city was, which kinda sucked. I still dodged everything, but it slowed things down XD Of course, that monster is now stale, so it's time to train up my secondary exploring monsters...

That picture is awesome, you should buy that guy a cup of coffee and get some more of his art! Even if you only know him through the internet, coffee = more productivity.

Aaaand trainer xp to next level is nice, I didn't mind being completely in the dark, but it's nice to know. More trains is good, tiles and custom markers are awesome, quests are sweet. I think that's about it for the comments I can make due to limited experience with other parts of the game... Dying, golems, exploring with more than one monster at once...

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Vael Victus
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04/03/2009 12:57

Rakki Lesthys said:
Enemy defense was extremely high around Pariltas or whatever the stone city was, which kinda sucked. I still dodged everything, but it slowed things down


That was exactly why I took to the changes I did. ^^ It was more of an HP buff, indeed. Thanks for the feedback.

I'll be adding a quest for every city that doesn't have one, except Quilier. So it should be Parilitas, Reisenford, all of Pakkus, and Sequia. They should all have tiles, too. I'm really interested in doing the desert tiles for Sequia, and I think it's going to be a fun place to go, so Sequia will have a really good quest. ( "benji" good )

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Buttes Guye
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04/03/2009 16:06

Rakki Lesthys said:
That picture is awesome, you should buy that guy a cup of coffee and get some more of his art! Even if you only know him through the internet, coffee = more productivity.


I drink coffee daily.

I will make more art if he requests it, but right now I'm busy coloring this thing:

http://coupsan.com/images/public/drawings/canyon_alpha2.png

I've only recently gotten into drawing so it will take me a while to do things for Vael.




Edited thrice, with the latest on April 03rd, 2009 18:04:59 by Buttes Guye
                                                                                                                                                                                       
Demi Lune
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04/03/2009 22:07
Alright, so I won't need to go back to New Orsa and do a handful of newbie quests just for the sake of it. Good to know, I'll just make sure not to get ahead of you, lol.

I "recently got into drawing" when I was nine, and nothing I made was anywhere near that quality. I stopped by the time I was ten, but hey, that's more than enough time to improve if my art was going anywhere in the first place, right?

Why no quest in Quilier, though?

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Buttes Guye
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04/03/2009 22:41

Rakki Lesthys said:
I "recently got into drawing" when I was nine, and nothing I made was anywhere near that quality. I stopped by the time I was ten, but hey, that's more than enough time to improve if my art was going anywhere in the first place, right?


I doodle a lot, but I meant that I do not draw huge projects or anything.



                                                                                                                                                                                       
Demi Lune
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04/04/2009 04:53
Ah, alright. Do you draw by hand, or with a tablet on the computer?

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Buttes Guye
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04/04/2009 11:27
Tablet and Photoshop.

                                                                                                                                                                                       
Vael Victus
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04/04/2009 13:18
Doesn't need to be a quest in Quilier, and I believe that's where the "big catch" is anyway so it's just a little something to do as you pass right into Krial.

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Demi Lune
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04/04/2009 14:20
That's what I was thinking, I just couldn't remember which was which. Is Big Catch completely random? Or do I just need to try it 5 times?

I figured it was tablet, from the look of it, but some people do both with different combinations. Some people prefer just to do line art on paper, scan it, and work from there, others just do the colors and effects on the computer.

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Vael Victus
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04/04/2009 21:35
Completely random. Pretty good payoff.

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Demi Lune
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04/04/2009 22:45
Damn. Guess I'd better get over there and start guessing. But, I can guess the same thing every time and have the same chances of winning! Yay!

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Buttes Guye
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04/05/2009 04:19
Vael has asked me to draw all of the NPCs! ^^

                                                                                                                                                                                       
Demi Lune
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04/05/2009 10:21
As in the ones for quests and stuff? That's pretty sweet, the more art the better really.

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Vael Victus
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04/05/2009 11:51
Well sometimes I get a burst of desperation for new players and I look at just about anything that can be wrong with the players' first impression. Thus the (stuff you'll see in next patch) and icons in the shop.

That being said, I do plan for him to draw most of the common NPCs, like hatchery, shop, lab, all those guys.

The thing with doing art and MonBre is that he could draw a house wife for some reason, and I'd could just be like "hey let's put that in MonBre" and before you know it, we've got Chira's quest in Mar' Muras.

Also I like his art style.

Edit:
OMG LOL sometimes I forget just how awesome my game is. xD The guy's name is "Captain Summinerother" and his dialogue is just great. I even have it so he calls you a lad or a lass depending on your gender. I love this too, when you fail:

You gained nothing, except now you're soaking wet. Great. I dunno, I guess sometimes I just forget I even code these things. I made a new character to test the newbie stuff I put in, out, and I realized this game is pretty fun.

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Edited once on April 05th, 2009 12:01:10 by Vael Victus
                                                                                                                                                                                       
Demi Lune
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04/05/2009 13:13
Players' first impression is definitely a good thing to improve, endgame content is really bad to focus on when there's not enough people to appreciate it.

People tend to like art over text, although there's always "that guy" who would rather play something with text and nothing else, but as a general rule art > text. Even if it's horrible stick figure art, people will usually be more attracted to a pictures over words.

I can't see anything else being changed to pictures, short of coding some ridiculous thing for the fighting. Unless you want to do the quests in pictograms. But adding NPC pictures and icons everywhere does add to the first impression, so there's that.

Looking at that picture for the first time in a while, yeah, I really like that style. Having art like that EVERYWHERE would really improve the impression the game gives.

I forgot that people like to procrastinate, so my recruitment failed today since everyone has papers to write/projects to do/studying to do/sobering up to do/etc.

But, here's what I'm thinking. I'll get one or two people in soon-ish, see what they think. I wait until the game is chock full of awesome pictures, then I get everyone I possibly can in, and see what they think compared to without pictures.

When all's said and done, and there's a more or less uniform art style for the game, make a bitchin ad and plaster it over the internet. Spray paint the url on walls, hang up posters, write it on dollar bills and distribute them evenly around town.

Is that the Big Catch quest...? Because I know I gained nothing but became soaking wet, I just don't remember for sure if it was that.

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Vael Victus
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04/05/2009 15:35
Wow, Rakki. <3 Thanks man bro. Yeah I'd definitely say after the changes I did yesterday, newbies should enjoy the game more. Feel free to invite whoever, but if you do really have a whole lot of people just waiting to play, perhaps waiting another ~2 weeks will be best.

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Demi Lune
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04/05/2009 22:11
ManBro, you say?

I don't actually have a huge list of people I could invite, but I could easily coerce people into it. My house was the official hangout spot for ages, so I've got friends of friends of friends. Useful when you need to refer people to games, useless when you want to weed out idiots.

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Buttes Guye
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04/06/2009 00:26
So far I have this for design:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2rz53lw.jpg

EDIT: Cleaned up and ready for coloring. I am very slow.




Edited once on April 06th, 2009 19:12:14 by Buttes Guye
                                                                                                                                                                                       

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